
Eathorne
is pulled back in this famous photo that soared around the world. The referee
is Lloyd Pugh. It’s not clear who was pulling on Les’ jacket.
THE LIFE AND TIMES OF EATHORNE:
A Conversation with Les, Part 2
Editor’s note: This is the third
of a three-part conversation with Bremerton’s Les Eathorne.
By Terry Mosher
Editor, Sports Paper
The impact Ken Wills had on Les
Eathorne can’t be underestimated. Wills was Eathorne’s basketball coach at
Bremerton High School and when it came time for Eathorne to face the real
world, he looked at what Wills had done and the life he lived and said to
himself that might be the way to go.
And that is the way Eathorne, a 1942 graduate of Bremerton, went. He
dived into coaching like his mentor, first at Camas in Southwest Washington and
then back to Bremerton in 1956 when East High opened its doors.
It would be another four decades before Eathorne would finally put away
the basketballs for the last time. In that span, Eathorne became every bit the
legend Wills had become in his 26 years as Bremerton coach.
In retirement, Eathorne rests comfortably at the East Bremerton home he
shares with wife Pat, commanding a view of the waters surrounding the city and
the big ferry boats coming and going to Seattle from downtown.
At the age of 82, Eathorne still follows high school basketball through
his stepson, Casey Lindberg, now into his second tenure as head boys basketball
coach at Bremerton. You can generally see Eathorne at the southeastern end of
the bleachers during Bremerton home games, rooting for the Knights. Often, he
is surrounded there by friends and other retired coaches, all of who are taking
mental notes on the strategy of the game.
TSP: When you graduated from
the University of Washington, what were you looking to do with your life?
LE: I didn’t want to work.
I watched Wills work with kids and I thought that he is just playing and having
a good time and enjoying himself. I had worked in the shipyard during summers
and that was work. I looked at Wills and he was living in a nice house; that
seemed to be the way to go. I certainly didn’t want to be a farmer (like his
mother’s family was in Walla Walla).
TSP: How did you get the job at Camas?
LE: What happened is I got an interview at North Kitsap, but it
was too close to home. One of my teammates, Bob Bird, got the job there. For
some reason I thought I wanted to get away. They called me up one day. Clifford
Duncan called and wanted to talk to me about the job at Camas. I didn’t know
where it was. We had just gotten a house on 81st and 8th (in Seattle) out past
Roosevelt High School. He was coming over for dinner. It was kind of funny. My
wife at that time, Jackie, and I sold some Coke bottles to get money to buy
some meat for meatloaf and a couple potatoes so we could have something to eat
while he was here. When the superintendent of schools visits and you need a
job, it’s not a good idea to give him a dead fish. So she hustled around to
make a good dinner. He enjoyed it. Clifford told me that the job didn’t pay
that much. He needed a social studies teacher and a basketball coach. He hired
me. Then he asked me if I knew anybody who wanted to be an assistant. I told
him Art McCarty. So Art assisted me in basketball, and we assisted in football.
But I assisted just that one year. I didn’t know a thing about football. But
McCarty did. He was a good coach.
TSP: How did you land back at Bremerton?
LE: Dwight Scheyer called me up and asked if I was interested in
the East job. They were opening a new high school. I had just interviewed at
Centralia. I wasn’t too interested in that. I was interviewed by four or five
ex-coaches. My God, coaches seem to come and go there. So I didn’t want to go
there. I never wrote a letter asking for a job. They asked me. Scheyer asked me
to write a letter saying I was interested. I was. He had my records from the
University of Washington. I had never been in trouble, never robbed a bank. And
Wills really helped me. But the guy they first offered the job to was Jack
Dunn. He was coaching at the junior high (Coontz). He didn’t want to go up to
the high school. He wanted to go into administration. I thought almost all the
years I was there I was the first choice. Well, one guy, just before he died,
told me I wasn’t. I don’t want to say who it was. There was no reason for him
to lie. And I think Dunn would have been a great coach. He played at Bremerton.
Trouble is, they should have not let me go all those years thinking I was God.
TSP: What was it like,
coming back home, coaching that first year at East? Did you have goose bumps?
LE: No, I knew I had a team.
I knew I had 12 players in black and white (school colors) who could play. I
didn’t have that many good players in seven years at Camas. We had kids who
could play (at East). They were tough and wanted to win. And they felt they
were being put upon, because they weren’t getting to play for the other school
(West). It was awful nice to have a cross to bear. They didn’t want you, but by
God we wanted you. We had Lyle Bakken, Lowell Mahugh, Dan Stautz. His brother
made all-state at Port Orchard. Ron Olson, who was 6-5 and went and played at
Idaho State and Bob McLean. First year we were much better than expected. I
didn’t think it was very good. I think we won about half our games.
TSP: Ken Wills was still
coaching (at West). What was that like to go against Wills? How did you do
against him?
LE: First time we had them beat. Took them to overtime (Les’
memory is slightly off; West beat East 49-36 in regulation time that first
meeting, with West’s Denny Strickland scoring 19 points; the same night, Wilt
Chamberlain scored 30 points as Kansas beat the University of Washington in
Seattle, 77-63). The next year we beat them on their floor, and they beat us on
our floor. Full house. Just crazy. That first win was the first win in anything
over West. From then on, I think our kids thought we could beat those guys. I
found out it’s much easier to lose against somebody you like that much. After
that first game he came up and put his arm around me and said, “Your kids
played great.” When we beat them that next year, I didn’t know what to say. I
was embarrassed and ashamed, and felt bad for him. He just laughed about it.
“You outplayed us,” he said. He was just really good about it. But I didn’t
know how to handle it. I imagine it would be like going against your father.
You like to win, but ... And he was a great coach and very much a gentleman.
I’m just sorry that over the years I couldn’t talk to him and tell him I have
this problem. On Fridays or Saturdays we would sit down and talk and go over
how to do this or that against this or that team. He bought a house in Manette
and we would go down in the basement and sit and talk. We would have hot rolls and
stuff. I’d ask how do you beat these guys? We’d just sit and talk about the
game. Sometimes you get mad at the other guy (coach). I never got mad at Wills.
I just looked at what he did and tried to do as good as he did.
TSP: How did his death affect you?
LE: Teddy McCarty called me. She worked at the Schutt Clinic with
Thelma Wills. They called me out of practice, and Teddy said, “Ken Wills had
shot himself.” I said, “Teddy, Ken doesn’t even like guns. He would never do
that”' She said, “Les, he shot himself.” So I had a guy playing for me – David
Huguenin. He was Ken’s nephew. I told him, “I think it would be a good idea if
you went home and saw your mother.” They lived off Perry Avenue. I just closed
practice down. We lost four games that year, three of them at the start of the
season, and the reason I think was (his death). I just thought this is just
basketball. What am I doing? This is crazy. I’m not going to coach something
that kills somebody I admire as much as Wills. What happened was very
confusing. Very tough on some people. At first I was bitter. So I just went
along (coaching) and pretty soon I got back in gear – probably the last
three-quarters of the season.
TSP: You coached 41 years. Only Ed Pepple (Mercer Island) and Ron
Brown (Centralia) have coached basketball in the state longer. How does that
make you feel?
LE: I didn’t care about that. I probably would have coached
longer. When we moved to the new building (1988, when the current Bremerton
High School opened at its present location), I saw no point in going over there
(from East Bremerton) and setting up with a new administration. If we would
have stayed at the East building I would have stayed longer. I would have
coached for a couple more years. I didn’t want to go to the new building. Also,
I thought it was as good of a break in time as any to allow somebody else to
develop their own program.
TSP: There have been significant changes made in basketball
during the years since you first started out as a kid to now. Two-handed set
shot to today’s game?
LE: When I was in junior high they eliminated the center jump
after each basket. That was a big change. Next they widened the free throw line
so you couldn’t camp in there. Then the 10-second rule. That was a very big
change. Then, of course, the dunking. At first it was illegal. Then when it
became legal, it certainly changed the game. The referees of the 1950s would go
crazy today. The kids nowadays, if you watch it like I have, they travel all
the time, or palm the ball. They come to a stop, and foot slips. But, also, we
didn’t play at the speed they do now. I don’t like the roughness of the game
now. I don’t mind it in the pros. But I don't like it college or high school.
It’s amazing to watch kids watch a game. They’re not bothered. The kids bought
me a seatbelt and strapped me to the bench. For a year or so in the 1970s. They
said, “You have to have something to restrain you.” It was embarrassing too. I
was getting technicals and I don’t think the administration liked it too much.
What the hell, maybe they were right. Now if I were still coaching, I could
walk up and down the side, go have a drink, and sit back down. Back then we had
36 inches.
TSP: Would players in your
day be able to step right in and play with today’s kids?
LE: Fundamentally they would. But we didn’t have the jump shot.
We drove to the baseline as well or better. We could shoot the outside shot,
but not as accurately. The thing I notice now is the great change in baskets.
Three corner-shot. That was a tough shot when I was in high school. Now you get
a kid a three-point shot from the corner, he’s going to make it usually. One of
the other things that is interesting, they went from four to five fouls. When I
played it was four fouls and you were gone.
TSP: This area has produced some great athletes: the Sorianos,
Lees, Tappes, Heinrichs. Who would you put in this category with these four.
LE: In all fairness to all
those guys, and they are great players, the one I admire the most is Soriano.
The reason? He was consistent, tough, a great defender, and an outstanding
shooter. And a very, very good leader. He had it all. But the best one was
probably Marvin Williams. God gave him height. Must be easier to shoot downhill
than uphill. Marvin is a great kid. He was the best player I ever saw in
Bremerton. There were others. Bill Morris was a great player. Alan Maul. I try
to tell people that we had about 30 players who could have played for any high
school in the state. We only needed 12 to make the Bremerton team. Rick Walker,
you had to watch him. I kept waiting for him to make a mistake. The thing was,
he was so smooth. He could be tough when you wanted him to be. You could not
intimidate him. Could jump within reason. And very much a team player. Almost
too much so at times. And just a great guy to play with. The fact is, if Walker
and Soriano could have played together, I don’t know who would have beaten
them. Soriano got the ball to the open man. So did Walker. But don’t know who
is best. The last 10 years, nobody could compare to Williams. Before that,
there were so many who were extremely good. Hal Lee was an All-American. How
can you argue with that? Bill Morris was an All-American. How can you argue
with that? For somebody who has watched the best players, I’d go with Hal Lee,
Bill Morris, certainly with Marvin Williams, then Soriano. A lot of people
would go with Tappe. I don’t know if Tappe was better than Frank Wright, who
played when I did. He played very well.
TSP: Who were some of the great coaches you coached against?
LE: Ken Wills was the
greatest. I didn’t spend a lot of time to become friends with him, plus when
push came to shove I didn’t want to like somebody who was better than me. The
guy at Bainbridge, Tom Paski, was as good as they got. I thought he was very
good. I liked him very much. The last years I have liked Jim Harney. Never when
I competed against him. I didn’t think I would become friends with him as I am
now. Guy at Sequim who died was a good one, Rick Kaps.
TSP: How have sports shaped you as a person?
LE: One of the greatest
shocks of my life was when I came out of Bremerton on an athletic scholarship
to the University of Washington. I admit I thought I was a pretty good student.
We go over there, line up and there were about 60 to 70 kids turning out for
the basketball team. Tubby Graves was running the practice and coach Hec
Edmundson was sitting against the wall. There were so many all-league and
all-state players. I thought, “Oh, my God. I think I better wake up here.” It
was impossible to relax; there were so many great players. If you had the
academics and had excellent coaching like I had, and loved the game, you should
be right with them. I couldn’t be intimidated by anybody. I certainly had great
coaching. I thought I would succeed.
TSP: If you could put one
thing on your tombstone, what would it say?
LE: He tried. That is the way I always did it. I tried. I figured
if I tried hard enough, I would do it. So I would try hard.